Dr. John Boudreau, Senior Research Scientist at Center for Effective Organizations at USC, and Pete Ramstad, former CHRO and Strategy & Organizational Consultant, join the Directionally Correct podcast to discuss why measuring the value of people in 2025 is more important than ever (from “Investing in People”). In this episode, we revisit their famous book “Beyond HR” and what gaps still exist in the HR function today, we discuss John’s recent book “Work without Jobs” and what’s hindering HR leaders from adopting it, why executive assessments are like bond ratings, whether street sweepers or airline pilots are more pivotal roles, and more shenanigans in this episode. You’ll want to check out this episode of the #1 people analytics podcast!
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